For this walk, we paired Nadir Shams and Kevin Crouch. Nadir is a former managing director at the Skoll Foundation. His career also spans One Acre Fund, Spring Impact, the World Bank, and Dalberg. He recently left the Skoll Foundation to co-found The Friends of Pakistan - Society and Fund, a funder collaborative that supports Pakistan-focused social entrepreneurs.

Kevin is a senior manager in Bridgespan’s San Francisco office. For several years, Kevin has managed a multi-year research, thought leadership, and peer learning initiative designed to unlock philanthropic funding for systems change leaders.

Nadir and Kevin walked through the streets of Oxford, England, where they were both attending the Skoll World Forum, to talk about the trajectory of their careers in the social sector, and the launch of Friends of Pakistan.

“What makes a certain type of coalition, network, or changemaker is that value of humility and curiosity that I feel is a prerequisite for teamwork,” said Shams. “That's part of what I'm trying to work on with my co-founders in this funder collaborative—a version of philanthropy that’s trying to be a better philanthropy.”