Episode Notes:
Value is never simply discovered by markets—it's decided, together, by what a society chooses to fund, protect, and imagine into being. And too often, culture is treated as decoration rather than infrastructure.
In this episode, we travel to Whitechapel Gallery in London to speak with Mariana Mazzucato, Whitechapel Economist in Residence and a professor at University College London; artist Alvaro Barrington; and Bridgespan partner Darren Isom, in conversation chaired by Gilane Tawadros, director at Whitechapel Gallery, as part of the gallery's Art Futures series on the value of culture.
Together, they explore why culture has been pushed to the periphery of economic and political life, and what it might mean to place it back at the center. Mariana opens with a provocation on rethinking value itself, before the conversation turns to public funding, philanthropy, imagination, and what institutions owe the communities they serve.





